Palin spouse was member of secessionist party

Her husband was for many years, and she attended the AIP convention. Ignoring this just proves your partisan nature. Take off the blinders.

Axel000, Making a big deal out this clearly proves your partisan nature.

But according to you folks, the fact she was associated with someone who was, in this case her husband, her views are shaped accordingly.

Or is that statement only true about Obama and Wright?

Look i fooled you, i ssaid any anti american party. The AIP is not anti american, as the article clearly states.

AYERS was a proven terrorist.

fools.

take your blinders off.

Rennurfast - name calling and insults ALWAYS help make a point???? No. PS: please
use check spelling.

Obama has a long laundry list of associations with questionable people. It seems to be he prefers to keep company with this sort of people. The proverb is so true! If you want to know a person, take a close look at his friends. Also, good character is corrupted by bad company. This article states that Palin's husband was registered independant

I am tired of these references to Obama having ties with questionable people. This is what GOP does when they are grasping at straws. The more that comes out about Palin, the more her ties look questionable, too. Her husband was registered with this unpatriotic party, she was a long time member of a church that spoke of the Iraq war as a mission of God and said Kerry voters were going to hell. They have opened up this can themselves so they should be ready to answer questions about HER church, HER spouse's lack of love for our country, and McCain's involvement in the Keating Five. I hope this time around, Democrats don't sit back and let the right wage this "character" war and not push back just as hard. Sadly, this is what has turned off so many voters, but republicans won't let it be any other way because they can't win when it's a fair fight.

I think all of these are relevant, concerning Obama and McCain, but the nick picky way people are going at Palin is crazy. It is like there really is no big news with her, so we are grasping at straws. She is pretty squeaky clean compared to most or possibly all. So we we have to aggrandize the normal concerning her.

I agree. Palin is really starting to scare me. If we thought McCain was a little crazy about the 100 year war now we have to worry about this far right extremist that wants Alaska to suceed from the union.

Now I am starting to realize why McCain picked Palin.

Maybe I misread the article. I didn't see anything about her wanting to secede from the union, except the headline. MSNBC is notorious for putting up a lie in the headline and posting a completely different story below it. They know that most people don't read enough to get the truth out of a story. Here is just another example of that.

You correctly described MSNBC.

When Obama mentions 57 states, perhaps we should ask him if he means the 57 Islamic States.

No, you read it right. And you read MSNBC right.

I like the heading about her being an Independent, while the next line blatantly says that she is a staunch Republican. Great journalism right there...

Kind of like Obama allegedly being for change but still a member of the leftist wing of the Democratic Party.

I don't know about CNN. It seems the McCain camp is mad at CNN for raising questions about Sarah Palin.

Yes god forbid we have freedom of the press in this country. What was CNN thinking.

Is "freedom of the press" the leftist mantra? I seem to recall that when the media reports something negative about Obama leftists immediately begin crying "racism, racism, racism."

Palin is running. That is right. She is the one that is scarey. I don't care about her family.

Getting McCain/Palin is going to be a dangerous pair. McCain wants war and she wants Alaska to suceed from the union. Great platforms. And I thought POW/911 was bad.

I'm sure she does want Alaska, and America, to succeed. I'm all for it.

I doubt she believes Alaska should secede, but I know from being born in Alaska, and growing up there, that many Alaskans simply want the federal government to leave them alone. The same could be said of a large number of in the western part of the lower 48. They don't understand why leftist environmentalists oppose drilling for oil in Alaska when doing so would make us less dependent on foreign oil and would create jobs in Alaska.

Because polar bears are more important than people. We should commit mass suicide so we stop bothering them.

Yes, to the left, polar bears are more important than human beings. By the way, except for a couple of small instances, polar bears are thriving. So much for the gloom and doom of Al Gore.

Palin line item vetoed state funding to support education to prevent teenage pregnancies. She is anti-contraception and believes in abstinence only education. This is the fruit of her beliefs, and should be in the public debate.

Now the issue of her daughter being brought into the public spotlight is Palins fault. She did not tell her family that she was being nominated until they arrived in Dayton OH. How irresponsible is that to not even consult with your own family before accepting such a nomination ?

Disgusting. Her judgement is the question and it deserves criticism.

Bristol Palin's pregnancy is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

As for abstinence, it works if one follows through. In other words, abstinence is 100% effective, 100% of the time. I'm a moderate Democrat and I'm sick of hearing leftists declare that the government can solve every problem.

Of course, had Bristol Palin ran to the nearest abortion clinic to kill her unborn child you'd no doubt be applauding her choice.

While those of you who don't like the fact that Palin's past and qualifications are being placed under scrutiny by we "Libs", just think about it for a minute. Just maybe if your candidate would have gone through the vetting process, we wouldn't have to be doing the vetting ourselves. Hey, these people are running for the top offices in OUR country too and we need to know who they are. Sorry guys, being McCain's "soulmate" isn't enough.

Hey, Obama is running for the presidency and we need to know he isn't a closet Muslim. So, let's thoroughly investigate his past and since the leftist media hasn't done it for us we'll have to do it ourselves.

Personally, I care more that Barack Obama might be a closet Muslim (Muslims are permitted to LIE about their faith if it advances the cause of Islam) than I am about Sarah Palin's husband.

Out of the left side of the mouth: Abstinence for children is bad, we can only rely on condoms.

Out of the right side of the mouth: Palin is a dirtbag because her child relied on a condom.

Anyone else catch the contradiction?

I believe her daughter should have been given access to the pill and also a talk about how a child can change your life at an early age, cause you are ot ready for everything that comes with having a baby.

Religious groups are fine but there does come a time when that's not all they need.Sex education in the school and in the home are the first step. I believe Palin was not there enough for her daughter not that she was not a good mother just that her daughter should have felt comfortable in asking her about sex and the pressures they are under now.

2. If the only thing you can tell your children is Abstinence, than you have lose the game already, Sex is everywhere in the cloths they wear and the movies they watch and even the video games they play, so Mom and Dad have got to be a team player with their children in the arts,and just to have a family day were everyone goes out together it does not have to be some were it will cost you an arm and a leg just were you can all visit and enjoy each others company.

Right. So since you have taken the "company you keep" argument away, you can no longer use it for Obama--if she can't be held to account for whom she MARRIED and conceived children with, then he can't be held to account for someone he met in a living room once.

I'm good with that. Now let's get down to the business of comparing her issuing of fishing licenses to his ability to raise record amounts of cash and the most. primary. votes. ever.

Let's do a year-by-year analysis of what they were doing from 1990 on. Get ready to be humiliated.

"...ability to raise record amounts of cash and the most. primary. votes..."

So, in your mind, this makes Obama qualified to be president?

Sarah Palin was the governor of a state; Obama was a community organizer. Guess which one gets the nod on executive experience?

In other words, abstinence is 100% effective, 100% of the time.

But abstinence only education policies have been proved statistically to increase the rate of teen pregnancy and orally transmitted VD everywhere it has been taught.

We do know, however, that Obama has been a heavy user of illegal drugs, didn't have the courage to take a political stance in the Illinois legislator and supports killing children that SURVIVE an abortion.

If McCain/Palin get elected we'll all need drugs. They'll be talking about dropping bombs all over the world.

Actually, I think he means killing terrorists and defending this nation. Do you oppose killing terrorists?

I have a couple of questions for all leftists. Can you ever envision a time when you would actually believe this nation should defend itself and can you ever envision a time when you put America first?

Personally, I can't envision a leftist ever wanting to defend this nation and, furthermore, I can't envision a leftist ever putting the U.S. ahead of international anti-American organizations.

"We may find out next that they belong to the KKK!"

I doubt it but we do know that Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK.

And Byrd saw the reality of what he thought was right and learned that he was wrong just as you will. By the way, Palin said that she tried drugs too---maybe that's why her brain is fried right now!!!

Is that why Robert Byrd, on a few years ago, used the N word?

Sarah Palin has far more executive experience than either Obama or Biden. Meanwhile, Obama was a community organizer. Did that include recruiting members for the racist Rev. Wright or bringing converts to Bill Ayers.

OMG!!!LOL!!! LOL!!! What kind of Jim Jones Kool-aid are you drinking?????

"OMG!!!LOL!!! LOL!!! What kind of Jim Jones Kool-aid are you drinking?????" This is exactly the question that should be asked of Obama fanatics. Robet Byrd most certainly did, within the past few years, use the N word.

HEY, I THOUGHT THAT THE RULES WERE THAT YOU HAD TO BE AN ADULT TO BLOG ON THIS SITE. DOES YOUR MOTHER KNOW THAT YOU ARE ON THE COMPUTER INSTEAD OF DOING YOUR HOMEWORK?

LOL! Well, the typical leftist retort when he/she can't add anything of substance. The fact is Robert Byrd used the N word and was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.

Your juvenile retort is so typical of leftists who, frankly, haven't done a thing for this country other than exhibit, for the rest of us, just how out of touch with reality the left is on all issues.

Yes its in fine shape right now with eight years of GOP bs.

Name one right you've lost during the Bush presidency. Just as I thought. NONE!

The Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese.

Hana32. The right that we lost under dumbo was the right to buy gas for a reasonable amount of money, the right to own a home, the right to not spend billions each day on a war that was trumped up by him and the "Evil One". I could go on and on--not to mention the rights of the hurricane Katrina victims that were lost with his less than pathetic handling of that situation. But I'm sure it's o.k. with you because maybe you are one of the lucky ones who have not been so tragically affected. Unfortunately there are millions upon millions who aren't so lucky....like the 4000+ dead soldiers and the many more who will never walk, talk, see again.

"The right that we lost under dumbo was the right to buy gas for a reasonable amount of money..."

The right to buy gasoline never existed. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

"...the right to own a home..."

I still own mine and large numbers of Americans are buying homes on a daily basis.

"...the rights of the hurricane Katrina victims that were lost with his less than pathetic handling of that situation..."

Of course, you failed to mention the pathetic Democratic governor of Louisiana or the racist mayor of New Orleans for this disaster.

"unfortunately there are millions upon millions who aren't so lucky....like the 4000+ dead soldiers and the many more who will never walk, talk, see again."

We have an all volunteer military. No one forced them to join. I oppose this war, but I have great respect for those who serve. I have a question.

Can you define a time you can ever envision the left wanting to defend America?

Can you define a time you can ever envision the left putting America ahead of international anti-American organizations?

IF YOUR INTERPRETATION OF A VOLUNTEER ARMY IS THAT YOU CAN NOT LEAVE WHEN YOUR TOUR IS UP BUT RATHER YOUR TIME IS EXTENDED FOR YOU, THEN I GUESS IT'S A VOLUNTEER ARMY!! COUNT ON THE DRAFT IF MCCAIN AND MISS MOOSE OF 1984 GET IN.

When one joins the military, tours of duty are often extended. Just ask those who served in World War II.

Those serving in the military are free to leave their duties behind. However, there are consequences for that choice. Wait, sorry, I forgot how much leftists hate the words "consequences" and "responsibilities."

mcarey, also don't forget my right to own a Carrera GT.

If you'd bother to do a little looking you'll find that gas prices are so high because of increased demand around the globe. That's what happens when markets with over a billion people find their way into the 21st century. Of course artificial limits on supply (US coastal oil restrictions, ANWR) don't help so Bush, and every Senator and Congress person do shoulder some of the blame).

The housing crisis is a result of the same mentality as the Dot.Com crisis from years ago. People got greedy and left all reason behind to buy houses way out of their price range. Lenders, getting a lot of pressure to "help the poor" (primarily from liberals), lowered their standards and offered ridiculous loans to people who should have known better. Then surprise, the market slows (as it does every few years) and people are suddenly stuck with houses that they can't afford and since no one is buying, they can't even sell. The result: foreclosures.

As for Katrina, since a lot of the hype was media created to begin with (most reports of sniper fire, rape, murder etc.. were completely fictitious), and since under the Constitution the Federal governments has very limited control to do anything within a states borders without governor approval (which was extremely slow in coming and often never given - just ask the Red Cross) the problem on the ground was mostly a State issue. The response after the fact, once FEMA became involved (they actually were on the scene faster than after most hurricanes but since people like you don't seem to understand they were, up to that point, always considered a support agency and not a first responder agency that doesn't seem to matter) was what happens whenever large bureaucracies try to manage local matters. Add to that the fact La is considered one of the most corrupt states in the Union, where for every dollar spent 5 end up disappearing and you start to get the picture why everything in NO was so bad while in neighbouring states, while the affects were devastating, things were much better all 'round.

While every life lost is tragic, the death of 4000 service men and women is a remarkably low number considering their sacrifice managed to bring freedom to 50 million people living under oppressive dictatorships. And compared to almost any other war in history the current Iraq war has one of the lowest casualty rates.

You may want to ask the citizens of Iraq and Afghanistan what type of changes to their rights have happened under Bush's time in office.

The Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese.

You need to get out more. It was a joke and a classic John Belushi line.

"Name one right you've lost during the Bush presidency. Just as I thought. NONE!"

The right to privacy.

GWB's wire tapping without a warrant. If you can't explain it to a judge showing probable cause, you shouldn't be doing it. It takes little time to see a judge and explain why this is necessary.

The required search warrant before entering a private premises.

No search warrant is required for law enforcement at any level to enter your home at anytime. Also eliminating the need to show probable cause to a judge. There has also been eliminated from this the required knocking on the door to announce their presence. They can legally break down your door at any time day or night. Try explaining this to your children when they scare them to death because they've gotten the address wrong. Or because your neighbor doesn't like you and has decided the best way to deal with you is to fabricate a lie about you to law enforcement. Or better yet when they shoot your husband and kill him when he's armed with a gun because he thinks that your home is being broken into.

Now you can add this to the mix. As of July 31 of this year, a bill has been proposed and put up for public comment, which effectively makes your state, local, and city law enforcement agencies part of the CIA, which does entitle them to keep you under surveillance to which they need also not show probable cause to a judge. Such a great idea, since they have all they can do to solve already committed crimes. Keep this in mind the next time you call 911 when you need the help of an officer.

Additionally law enforcement can now attach a GPS tracking device to your vehicle without a warrant and thus eliminating the need to show probable cause to a judge to do so. Not a problem? Imagine your car being stolen and it's being used in a crime to which you are unaware, such as child molestation or child kidnapping. You can and will be arrested and charged for something that you did not do, nor have any knowledge of.

I asked my recently retired brother why he retired after only 20 years on the force since he loved law enforcement so. He said to me, because he was tired of dealing with the bad guys. He wasn't talking about the criminal element either.

Now before you tell me that if you've done nothing wrong it isn't a problem, consider this, all those people who are now in prison for crimes that they did not commit. Do you really think that you want to be one of them?

Excellent point!

They milked Rev. Wright as long as they could. Palin's crazy God talk is new grist for the mill .....and even more frightening. I doubt that God wants us destroying another country and the innocent people who live there or do you think that "all those people" are the same like other bigots do?

Are you suggesting Saddam Hussein was innocent? Do you believe the terrorists killing Americans, in Iraq, are innocent?

Go back to Regan Admin the US put Saddam Hussein in power or did you forget that.

I do believe all of those innocent women and children were victims and believe it or not all Iraqui men are not terrorists. Looks like you've been drinking the Bush Kool-Aid too!!!

Perhaps you should take up this with the Islamic terrorists who use civilians as human shields or who set up their terrorist operations in residential neighborhoods.

Your final comment is just juvenile but typical of the left.

DO YOU HAVE A LIFE? IS THIS CHANEY BLOGGING FROM YOUR BUNKER? PROBABLY SO BECAUSE AFTER COUNTING YOUR MONEY FROM THE GAS/OIL INTERESTS YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT WRITE STUPID STATEMENTS.

It's a fact that Islamic terrorists use civilians as human shields.

Before you post, could you learn to spell?

However, the modern-day radical feminists don't respect human life. Well, put another way, they're wail and moan when the U.S. military accidentally kills a familly because terrorrists used that family as human shields but they have no remorse when it comes to killing innocent unborn human babies.

You must have been trying out those drugs with Palin!!!

I'll take your comment as evidence you have nothing of substance to add which, again, is typical of the left.

In that case, Obama is a descipable human being since he associates himself with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers.

You might want to check out the company all of these weasels keep, you shouldn't call out one without looking at the others just as intently, unless you are closed minded and participating in partisan politics which makes your motives suspect.

Personally, I find the characters Obama associates himself with far more suspect than the AIP. Being a native Alaskan, I know many Alaskans simply want the federal government to leave them alone, a majority supporting drilling for more oil because it will create jobs for Alaskans, and they don't trust the majority of politicians who reside in the Logic Free Zone called Washington, D.C.

I tend to agree with you, the government, let me rephrase the politicians who run the government are so corrupt that we should all have second thoughts about supporting them. They perpetuate a system that keeps them in power and only address the issues they deem necessary to secure their reelection every 2 to 6 years. Their mindless lackeys support them and tout the merits of one party over the other while all the time they are more alike than either would like to admit because they all lust for power, if you think any of them care about the regular people who work every day and pay the freight you must also believe in Santa Claus.

I don't place much faith in the politicians who call Washington, D.C. home. Washington can't solve problems. Simply look at the so-called War on Poverty. It's lasted for more than 40 years and, guess what, poverty still exists. The only thing accomplished with lefitst feel-good programs is we've made a few generations of people solely dependent on the government.

Hana 32,

Just when I think your comments couldn't get more ridiculous, you top yourself. You're still hanging onto Republican "talking points" that were stupid when they were said, and now they're just nuts. You see, unlike your candidates, ours were properly vetted and the things you say were already proven to be lies. Get yourself up to date Sweetie.

No, your candidate was NOT properly vetted. The media has fallen head over heels in love with Obama and, whenever any legitimate criticism is leveled at him, people like you begin screaming "racism, racism, racism."

Hana

Well, you've done it again. Please show me where the word "racism" was even hinted at in my comment. You're hallucinating.

Hana

Well, you've done it again. Please show me where the word "racism" was even hinted at in my comment. You're hallucinating.

Hana

Well, you've done it again. Please show me where the word "racism" was even hinted at in my comment. You're hallucinating. And by the way, do you even know what the term "vetted" means?

I didn't say you used the word "racism." However, that does seem to be the typical response when someone criticizes Obama.

Do you know what the word "vetted" means? I doubt it since you haven't properly vetted Obama.

Wikepedia as a credible source--get real!!!!

"I don't place much faith in the politicians who call Washington, D.C. home. Washington can't solve problems. Simply look at the so-called War on Poverty. It's lasted for more than 40 years and, guess what, poverty still exists. The only thing accomplished with leftist feel-good programs is we've made a few generations of people solely dependent on the government."

Really this is quite a statement from someone who is more than willing to hand over their civil liberties to the "Federal Government" so that the "Federal Government" will keep them safe from supposed terrorist attacks. Strange how the borders are no more secure now than they ever have been before. Strange how there have been minimal arrests of terrorists in this country. Your statement that Washington can't solve problems and you have no faith in the politicians that call Washington home, is a blatant lie.

By the way don't ask Iraqi's what they think of the US, it would in fact burst your bubble. They hate us, and they want us gone. Also don't think that all the children who were killed in Iraq were in fact "human shields". They weren't. You need a reality check, and you need one desperately.

And by the way, I corrected your spelling of leftist above with the spell check that you keep screaming everyone else should use. Perhaps you need to take a bit of your own advice.

Apparently you missed the first 16 months of the Democrat primary. Obama's past was out there for everyone to see. So it's been covered in the media.

Actually, it hasn't been covered. Let's dig into Obama's past and learn whether he is, indeed, a closet Muslim. You are aware, I assume, that the Koran permits Muslims to LIE about their faith if doing so advances the cause (world domination) of Islam. For 2000 years, Christians have been murdered simply because they refused to deny their faith; however, Muslims can LIE and deny they're Muslims for the sake of advancing the cause.

Let's dig into Obama's business dealings, let's closely examine his relationship with Bill Ayers, and let's examine how and why his wife's employer suddenly received an infusion of state funds once Obama joined the Illinois legislator.

No, I don't believe the media has delved into any of these issues.

Apparently it's politically incorrect to question a person's religious affiliation, unless that person is Jewish, Catholic, or Mormon ~eyeroll~

The left is enamoured with Islam; it's the only religion they don't attack.

Can anyone answer why MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, and any of the news papers don't report on any of these same type of issues which have surrounded Obama?

I didn't realize Obama has been accused of using his office for personal gain, fired qualified people for not supporting his candidacy, running up a mountain of debt for his city, lying about his support for earmarks or running as a family values candidate who obviously does not value his family.

Great comment, to add a little feul to the fire, people should look into the top 5 poorest and in debt cities in the USA, and then look into which political party has been in control of those cities for the past 10, 20, 50 years plus, for those of you on the left that have a hard time reading the full articles or finding actual facts I'll help you out on this one, it's the demacrats that are in charge.

True. I live in Michigan where one of the worst run cities in America, Detroit, has been controlled by leftist black politicians for 40 years.

I had the displeasure of living in Greenville, MS back in the 80's. People wouldn't work because they could receive welfare and a job would reduce their benefits. The crime got so bad we moved away for our safety. Liberalism just don't work!

I would rephrase and say leftism doesn't work. Unfortunately, people like Obama and the Clintons passed liberalism a long time ago and became diehard leftists, more akin to socialists.

Why only city? That's a rather poor indicator. But if you insist:

http://wealth.mongabay.com/tables/100_lowest_income.html

Three of the top five are (R) controlled.

Why not look at states or even counties?

5. Todd County, SD (R)
4. Zeibach Couny, SD (R)
3. Starr County, TX (D)
2. Shannon County, SD (R)
1. Buffalo County, SD (R)

Everyone of those SD Counties are on Native American Reservations. But man do they love their Republicans, even though the feeling isn't mutual.

Now here is state breakdown of wealth in no order:

Kentucky (R)
Louisiana (R)
South Carolina (R)
Idaho (R)
Montana (D)
Utah (R)
New Mexico (D)
West Virginia (D)
Arkansas (D)
Mississippi (R)

There you have it, the poorest cities, counties, and states and the winner, with the majority is......the REPUBLICANS.

Perhaps Indians should try capitalism instead of socialism.

There system is set up the same way the Alaskan Independence Party wants Alaska to be set up.

At least going by the AIP's 2008 Platform stated both here and on their website.

I say city, because according to the left media and the dems, small town America doesn't matter (Wasilla, AK pop. ~9000, Alaska as a state pop. ~680,000). I was also referring to how the cities were ran, not by the income of their individual citizens.

But it is funny you should mention SD. I was born and raised in SD, I've been to some of the county's that you listed, and you're right, they are in poor areas, but also their main source of income is Agriculture, not a very lucrative trade unless your a big corporate farm/ranch, government handouts, and then farm subsidies which for the most regulates how much you can grow, what you can sell it for, and gives you money to offset the cost of growing your food.

Louisiana has been in the control of Democrats more than 90% of it's statehood history. Since 1843 to 1865 Democrats. from 1877 to 1980 Democrat, one year of Republican, then 1984 to 1996 Democrat, and 1996 to 2004 Republican, and then the Great Blanco administration (which actually was merely a babysitting job for her), and now Bobby Jindel. Check your history before making assumptions just Republicans ruin the system. Both ruin many systems, it's the quality of character, and the ability to stay out of the good ole boy system that makes someone a reformer and a change maker. Louisiana also has the French Rule which governs it's Parishes, which is unlike any other state.

Still amazed at the climate that exists in education these days and the incessant ability to point fingers and jam up blogs with rhetoric that is bull and equates to quantitative ignorance. Keep it up! America is in grave trouble due to lack of mandatory education, and the continuation of generational welfare with no accountability!

Tired of the Same: Perhaps instead of being swayed into the face value of life, you should do your homework. Take your spin and democratic/socialistic rhetoric back to a think tank that only understands the surface issues not the real issues.

Do some background checking and see how when the Dem's are in office things go amuck! Literally! Believe the spin and you'll pay like the rest of us in the end.

Now we know why leftists oppose the AIP. It supports property rights, something leftists oppose.

How in the world does PMSNBC twist that into something negative. If it were here, I would join!

They twist because the leftists at MSNBC apparently fear property rights as much as leftists in the Democratic Party.

NSJFP - Everyone who cares should visit the site http://www.akip.org and draw their own conclusion after looking around the site. Their relatively benign platform notwithstanding, an objective read would conclude that the organization wants a vote on whether Alaska should 1) remain a territory 2) become a separate nation 3) accept commonwealth status or 4) become a state. The FAQ section touts the benefits of "independence", a term that the organization distinguishes from "secession" though I have personally not concluded whether the difference is substantive or semantic. Interestingly, the site does quote Jefferson Davis, the first and only President of the Confederate States of America, who took office shortly after South Carolina and Mississippi seceded from the Union.

Joe Vogel, the late founder of the organization, provides a long treatise basically asserting that the establishment of Alaska as a state was invalid because people were not provided with the range of options presented above. Even though the United States bought the territory from the Russian Empire in 1867, Vogel asserts the need for such a vote based on Article 73, Chapter 11 of the United Nations charter (ironic in that most conservatives despise the United Nations).

Regardless of what their platform states, there is enough on the website to conclude that this organization is in favor of secession. They don't call it that because they don't view the statehood of Alaska to be valid in the first place. I see a lot of people on this board attempting to obfuscate the reality of this organization's goals with the name calling and bluster that is the stock-in-trade of the tragically uninformed. Contrary to the assertions of AIP leadership, perhaps Governor Palin has not been a registered member of this organization, but she has been a supporter of an organization that questions the authority of the very body she intends to lead.

I looked at the site. I saw the choices AIP wants Alaska to be able to have and I also read the platform and goals (which were also posted above somewhere) that state very clearly that the US Constitution will be complied with fully.

Isn't every state supposed to have the choice to be in the Union or not? This is after all supposed to be a government for the people, by the people. The choice should be ours. And as long as the US Constitution is in effect, there should be no reason to make any other choice than sticking with the USA.

Additional note - 3 of the 4 choices that the AIP wants Alaska to have are choices that would keep them with the USA.

Bottom Line - some in the AIP may be secessionist (those that want that other 1 of the 4 choices) but most are not, the organization itself is not according to its platform and goals. The Palins are NOT secessionist.

The AIP is secessionist. They simply try to couch it based on their view that their establishment as a state was invalid based on an alleged violation of a United Nations provision. They call for repatriation of federal lands, lands bought from the Russian Empire in 1867. It is clear which of the four choices they wish voters would pick if it came to that. Most of the answers in their FAQ section are written to support secession. The site quotes the president of the confederacy, which in fact, did secede. Their founder said he was Alaskan, not American. He circulated a petition calling for secession. Governor Hickell was elected as a member of the AIP, but they attempted to recall him when he would not agree to push for secession. Palin's husband was a member during this time and AIP members confirmed that Palin attended their 1994 convention and as governor addressed their convention this year. The record is clear.

Why would I create a false rumor about Palin. She's not a member of the KKK. I'm a moderate Democrat and I will NEVER understand the leftists in my party who claim to be pro-women, pro-human life, pro-American and then, with every word they post, prove otherwise.

Thank you, and like wise, especially the find about the AIP, nicely done.

Ditto

This is a perfect example of a liberal. They sit and dream up these ridiculus thoughts and then convince themselves they are true.

True and notice how they can't type Rove's first name properly.

True, they can't stand it!

You don't know Mr. Obama and your ears are not open. Mr. Obama is telling every one to leave the young lady out of politics. If he knew any one that was trying to tear her down he would step in and defend her. Move the clouds so you can really see.

Yeah, standing up in front of the world and telling everyone not to mention Governor Palin's 17 year-old daughter who got pregnant out of wedlock, isn't mentioning the daughter. Whatever. It is the old trick of saying not to say something, but by saying that, it gets said. Do you get what I am saying?

Take this as another, if not funnier, example.

Faye-466974,
I agree that Obama isn't attacking the Palins. He doesn't have to. His worshippers in the media are doing all the dirty work for him. It nearly took DNA evidence to report John Edwards cheating on his wife with cancer, but the media will ask a magic 8 ball about a conservative and run it as truth.

blb,
Who knows if this is his media face and he is telling his subjects to publish these attacks?

Am I wrong or is Palin running as VP candidate? It would be nice if the Repubs would get back on point or rather finally get to the point. The pregnant daughter diversion has lasted long enough. Palin is an absent mother who doesn't even know what a VP does (see the video) so the issue is not the daughter but the credentials of Miss Mosse of 1984 to be in the race AT ALL

If the family and the preggers daughter are not up for discussion, why did I just see a photo op with the "Baby Daddy" being greeted by McBush. I thought they didn't want the coverage but then they go and set this up!! typical--can't figure out what to be for or against..........

We are not running for the second highest office in the Country.

mcarey,
And Obama's credentials are less than those of Palin.